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to measure it. that has been the sticking point for some years on this issue. it's what john mccain, presidential campaign had to recognize when he was running that you got to get border security up there first and everything else you want to do comes after that. the president's -- the ideas embodied in this leaked bill has border security measures in it but it doesn't put it up front and make that the premise after which everything else flows. that is the sticking point. >> bill: why doesn't the president if he wants to get it done, just say we're going to negotiate with the republicans, we'll put in some tough measures on the border and then everything will follow after it? this doesn't seem like that, you know? >> he may say those words but the president and his party are much less concerned about border security than the republicans are. >> bill: does the president say.... >> no. these aren't things people. >> bill: it's more b.s.? >> of course it is. but it will be produced without the president's negotiations. it will be a congressional affair and the president is very likely
. instead is he going to be secretary of defense. >> by that measure, john mccain should have been president in 2008 up against a guy who had no experience in executive branch and experience in the military. >> -- and no experience in the military. >> i have the highest regard for john mccain. is he a friend of mine. i actually went and visited where he was held in captivity with com sam johnson. he is an amazing man and i like him a lot. this is whether hagel is going to be secretary of defense. based on who he is and his service to the country. i never voted against israel in his 12 years in the senate. i think he is somebody who wants peace, he he is strong. he will keep us out of wars. i think that we need somebody in that position. >> here is what bill kristol wroited today, chuck hagel isn't a first rate candidate for secretary of defense. he isn't even a second rate candidate. has there ever been a more embarrassing confirmation hearing than hagel for a measure cabinet position. for a minor cabinet position or subcabinet position. we don't know of one. congressman, i understand the wh
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